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Veins1: Welcome to the Veins1 vascular moderated chat.
This is the last of four moderated chats on Veins1 in October. We welcome your
questions and your input. amidala: Is there a connection between restless leg syndrome
and Raynaud's disease? S. Lek: Hi Doctor, I am also interested in preventing
DVT. I have long flights to go on-- some as long as 14 hrs. w/ no breaks. Are
there exercises I can do, or stockings that I can wear that will prevent DVT?? Dr. Spitz: Just flexing the calf muscles and
walking up and down the aisles every hour or 2...that is what I do. bob242: What causes spider veins and is there a way to
prevent them? vein123: Is it ok to leave the stockings on all the time? benbo: Does Carpal Tunnel Syndrome affect the veins at all? Mik E. : Hi Dr., is lymphedema caused by bad veins? asm: What is the best way to treat spider veins in young
patients, such as 23 year-olds? Do you think new treatments will be available
soon? benbo: Is ligation ever used anymore for varicose veins? virginia: Do vascular surgeons traditionally perform stent
implants? Veins1: Dr. Spitz, there are a few questions about varicose
veins and diabetes. What considerations should diabetics take when they have
varicose vein surgery? ragden : Hello Doctor. Are bad hemorrhoids treatable by
surgery? Thank you. bob242: In DVT patients - does the body actually "reabsorb"
a blood clot? josie: What is an incompetent vein? Veins1: There is a question about weight gain and the
acceleration of varicose veins. Can you address this? kas517: Is discoloration of the leg normal after vein
surgery? MaxP: Would phototherapy for removal of a birth mark
be done by a vascular surgeon? Tom: Dr., can you elaborate how clogged arteries can
cause weakness or numbness in the extremities? Dr. Spitz: Less oxygen to the muscles from
arteries that don't flow normally. MaxP: I recently noticed a small sore near my ankle - is
this a symptom of chronic venous insufficiency? What else should I look out
for? Gino Roh: One other question for my wife (she doesn't
know I'm asking, but I know she won't mind) she has cold feet, and cold hands.
I know that women get this often. I was told that it is a veins problem-- is
that true? She has a small varicose vein in her leg and some veins that show on
top of her hands-- are they the problem? Can she do anything about it? Dr. Spitz: It could be a vein or artery
problem. Seeing a vascular surgeon could easily diagnose this as normal or a
specific problem. MaxP: Are there vitamin supplements that can reduce the
appearance of spider veins? Veins1: Dr. Spitz, there are a few questions regarding what
other veins do to compensate for varicose veins - can you address this please? raphael: Do incompetent perforator veins get worse with
exercise? raphael: Also, I seem to have several puffy bumps on my
right forearm, that are very noticeable when I flex. Is this serious? Dr. Spitz: I couldn't venture a guess
without seeing them...you should see your doctor and get an opinion. S. Karm1 : Can I ask about avascular necrosis? A relative of
mine plays a lot of sports although he's an older guy. He recently hurt his
upper leg (I was there when it happened.) Now his hip is bothering him. I was
told that he might have ripped a vein feeding the top of his thigh bone (femur)
and that if that happened avascular necrosis of the bone might set in-- and
that he should go get tests. Does he have to worry about avascular necrosis,
and if he does, what tests does he need? Veins1: There are some questions about the cost to patients
for the TriVexÔ
procedure. What should patients do to investigate this? raphael: How does the VNUS procedure differ from TriVexÔ? Veins1: Dr., what about the correlation(s) between pregnancy
and vascular problems, in general, and varicose vein problems, in particular? Veins1: Dr., is there anything you would like to add before
we close for the night? Veins1: Thank you Dr. Spitz for your insightful responses
tonight. And thank you audience for your participation in the Veins1 moderated
chat.
Veins1 Discussion with Dr. Gregory Spitz
October 22, 2002
Veins1: Today's guest is Gregory A. Spitz, M.D., F.A.C.S. Dr. Spitz is a
leading general surgeon, and the inventor of the surgical technique for
varicose vein removal used with the TriVexÔ System. As a member of the Senior Attending and
Teaching Staff at Rush-Copley Medical Center in Aurora, IL, Dr. Spitz
specializes in minimally invasive vein surgery, advanced laparoscopy and
minimally invasive hernia repair.
Veins1: Dr. Spitz is a member of the American Medical Association and a Fellow
of the American College of Surgeons. He is also a member of the Illinois State
Medical Society, Kane County Medical Society (Secretary of Treasury,
President-Elect, Board of Directors), Fox Valley Medicine (Board of Directors),
the Warren Cole Surgical Society and the American College of Phlebology (member
and speaker).
Veins1: He is a graduate of the University of Illinois, College of Medicine,
Chicago, IL. His internship and residency were performed at the University of
Illinois, Metropolitan Group Hospitals, Chicago, IL.
Veins1: We welcome your questions.
kas517: Are there any creams or lotions that can treat bad veins? Spider
veins especially?
Dr. Spitz: None that have been proven. Many have been tried including
makeups and various potions...none have succeeded.
vein123: Dr. Spitz. My brother, age 41, is recovering from deep vein
thrombosis. He has a blood clot in is left calf. Is it dangerous to wear knee
high stockings for 24 hours a day for a few weeks or months? Someone told me
that if I remove the stockings, a blood clot could go to his lungs. I also
heard that if I leave them on all the time, he may get gangrene or blood
infection.
Dr. Spitz: We recommend thigh high stockings for patients that have had
clots. The knee-highs tend to bind at the knee crease.
Tom: Can weak/poor circulation in the veins cause weakness and or numbness
in the arm and legs?
Dr. Spitz: You are more likely to have weakness or numbness from
insufficiency in the arteries.
Dr. Spitz: No specific known relation at this time, but restless leg
syndrome does not have a known cause and Raynaud’s is from known spasm of small
arteries.
Dr. Spitz: Heredity, hormones are 2 major causes...and no one knows
how to prevent them yet!
Dr. Spitz: It depends on the stocking and the patient...some are made
to wear all the time. In general it is good to let the skin get some air.
S. Lek: One other question, Doctor. I lift weights and after I lift hard, my
veins pop-up. They re huge for 1-2 hours -- should I worry about this?
Dr. Spitz: This is probably a variant of normal due to the high pressure
you put on them.
Dr. Spitz: Usually not…it affects the nerve in the wrist leading to
the hand.
virginia: Why is it that women are more prone to PVD?
Dr. Spitz: Peripheral vascular disease is usually referring to the arteries
and is still more common in MEN. Women are more prone to vein disease due to
hormonal changes.
kas517: How is pelvic congestion syndrome treated?
Dr. Spitz: First it needs to be diagnosed by duplex ultrasound and
sometimes requires a venogram...dye in the veins and x-ray. If the certain
usual vessels are involved they can be treated by clotting them off with coils
delivered by a catheter in the radiology dept. Sometimes surgery is required to
tie them off.
Dr. Spitz: The lymph system follows the vein system...incompetent or bad
veins can contribute to lymphedema or blockage of the lymph vessels.
Dr. Spitz: A combination of laser and sclerotherapy (injections) works
quite well in the right hands.
Dr. Spitz: Just ligation is still used by some but it has been proven
over and over to be unsuccessful long term.
Dr. Spitz: Vascular surgeons or invasive radiologists.
Dr. Spitz: Healing and skin condition have to watched carefully and of
course tight control of the diabetes around any procedures...without artery
disease we treat them as we do any other patients with vein problems.
Dr. Spitz: Hemorrhoids can be removed surgically as an outpatient.
Dr. Spitz: The blood vessels will recannulate or open up after a certain
amount of time and the blood clot is in so many words reabsorbed…slowly.
Dr. Spitz: The blood in a vein is supposed to return to the lungs and
heart...an incompetent valve and vein make blood stagnant or flow back toward
the feet causing clots, phlebitis and varicose veins from the pressure.
ragden : Doctor, also on hemorrhoids, is there some drug that I can put
inside there instead of surgery? That would be better for me. Thank you.
Dr. Spitz: Prep H and other over the counter remedies may soothe symptoms
but don't remove the problem.
Dr. Spitz: Undue weight gain certainly can make vein problems worse. The
extra weight causes even more pressure on the vein blood that is already going
the wrong direction.
vein123: Is DVT more common from long airplane trips than long bus trips -
due to a pressurized environment?
Dr. Spitz: Immobility, trauma, cancer, clotting disorders are the most
common causes of DVT... whether on a bus or plane probably doesn't change
things too much. It is more commonly DOCUMENTED on airplanes.
Dr. Spitz: Some people start with discoloration... if blood is trapped
under the skin from sclerotherapy or surgery it is possible. It should fade in
time and there are treatments available to make this go away faster.
Dr. Spitz: It can be done by a plastic surgeon, vascular surgeon and some
dermatologists. The key is someone experienced with the laser or phototherapy
equipment.
Gino Roh: My wife has small veins-- when she goes to the doctor for a
check-up and they take blood she gets big discoloration marks. Why does this
happen and do they have to take blood from her arm-- she gets stuck a lot of
times and it hurts her. Thank you.
Dr. Spitz: Most likely the walls of her veins are just quite thin and break
easily. Always ask for the most experienced person PRIOR to her getting blood
drawn.
Dr. Spitz: Without seeing it ...I would be hard pressed to say. If you
have other vein problems it well could be...a duplex ultrasound of the veins
will most likely be able to help the diagnosis.
Dr. Spitz: None that have been proven. There a lot of supplements that
claim lots of things...none of which can be substantiated.
Dr. Spitz: There are hundreds veins in the legs. When varicose veins
exist they act like a clog in the system. When removed, the circulation becomes
MORE efficient and thus better. The normal veins that are left can now do their
job effectively without clogs blocking them.
Dr. Spitz: In general exercise has many more benefits than risks with
vein disease... with incompetent perforators surgery or compression or a combination
of the 2 will make exercise more comfortable and safe.
Dr. Spitz: That would be arteries in the hip joint...the bone dies and
needs to be replaced. That is more appropriate for an orthopedic surgeon to
answer any more on that problem.
Dr. Spitz: TriVexÔ is the
minimally invasive technique to remove varicose veins. It is a short procedure
with few incisions and good cosmetic results as well as pain relief. It is
often combined with a valve procedure. Standard procedural codes are used for
billing this procedure. It is not experimental. Insurance companies are
reimbursing for this procedure every day all over the country...your vein
surgeon has all the information they need to precertify you with your plan and
educate you about the costs in different parts of the country. Each case is
unique as different procedures are combined for treatment of the entire leg.
Dr. Spitz: VNUS is just using electrocautery to burn the inside of the
saphenous vein that runs down the inside of the thigh. TriVexÔ actually
removes the varicose veins that you see on your leg.
Dr. Spitz: Pregnancy will just by pressure alone cause varicose veins
to get worse. The extra hormone changes also change the characteristics of
veins and make them more prone to becoming varicose.
Dr. Spitz: Remember for your vein problems...don't go to an amateur...
or someone who does this as a sideline...go to a well-trained surgeon who can
offer all the options of diagnosis and treatment of your vein problem. Thank
you.